MSDTC and W2K3

I've read about a thousand different things and really need a straight answer:
I'm setting up clustering on a dual-node W2K3 cluster.
If the applications that are accessing the SQL Server DO NOT utilize MSDTC,
do I need to even bother with creating the group, resources, etc. for MSDTC?
If I still need to create it, exactly what is the Network Resoource name:
just some random name I make up or is it something specific?
And doesn't SQL Server install create those anywway?
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Anthony
SQL does not require MSDTC, if you app does not use it, don't install it.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
"A. Robinson" <A. Robinson@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I've read about a thousand different things and really need a straight
> answer:
> I'm setting up clustering on a dual-node W2K3 cluster.
> If the applications that are accessing the SQL Server DO NOT utilize
> MSDTC,
> do I need to even bother with creating the group, resources, etc. for
> MSDTC?
> If I still need to create it, exactly what is the Network Resoource name:
> just some random name I make up or is it something specific?
> And doesn't SQL Server install create those anywway?
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> Anthony
|||Thank you!!! Was going nuts trying to convince people it didn't need to be
there if you don't use it...
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:

> SQL does not require MSDTC, if you app does not use it, don't install it.
> Cheers,
> Rod
> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
> http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
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>
|||If you won't be using it heavily, I would still set it up using in the
cluster group using the Quorum disk. I personally have had zero success
installing a clustered SQL 2000 without MSDTC.
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
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> Thank you!!! Was going nuts trying to convince people it didn't need to be
> there if you don't use it...
> "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
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|||Really? We have 20 of them. They all work great.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you won't be using it heavily, I would still set it up using in the
> cluster group using the Quorum disk. I personally have had zero success
> installing a clustered SQL 2000 without MSDTC.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> Senior Database Administrator
> Careerbuilder.com
> I support the Professional Association for SQL Server
> www.sqlpass.org
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> name:
>
|||While SQL Server does not require MS DTC, MS DTC on a cluster is only
supported when clustered and it is recommended to cluster it.
When clustering MS DTC it is preferred to have it in its own group with its
own resources, your second choice should be to put it in the cluster group,
use the quorum disk and create MS DTC its own Network Name and IP Address
resources for your MSDTC resource to use and set that resources properties
not to affect the group.
Here are some KB articles on correctly setting this up:
301600 How to configure Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator on a
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=301600
817064 How to enable network DTC access in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817064
Also this article which may be of interest:
817065 How To Enable Network COM Access in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817065
Dave Whitney
SQL Support
|||Agreed, since we use SQL clusters without MSDTC, we disable the default
windows service for it.
Cheers,
Rod
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
"Dave Whitney [MS]" <dwhitneyOnline@.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> While SQL Server does not require MS DTC, MS DTC on a cluster is only
> supported when clustered and it is recommended to cluster it.
> When clustering MS DTC it is preferred to have it in its own group with
> its
> own resources, your second choice should be to put it in the cluster
> group,
> use the quorum disk and create MS DTC its own Network Name and IP Address
> resources for your MSDTC resource to use and set that resources properties
> not to affect the group.
> Here are some KB articles on correctly setting this up:
> 301600 How to configure Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator on a
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=301600
> 817064 How to enable network DTC access in Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817064
> Also this article which may be of interest:
> 817065 How To Enable Network COM Access in Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817065
> Dave Whitney
> SQL Support
>
|||Well, we have been scared by the recommended best practices into submission,
and simply sucked in and coughed up a separate disk for the MSDTC resource.
(I'm not talking about whether the MSDTC resource should or should not be
configured. It should in our environments.)
Linchi
"Dave Whitney [MS]" <dwhitneyOnline@.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> While SQL Server does not require MS DTC, MS DTC on a cluster is only
> supported when clustered and it is recommended to cluster it.
> When clustering MS DTC it is preferred to have it in its own group with
> its
> own resources, your second choice should be to put it in the cluster
> group,
> use the quorum disk and create MS DTC its own Network Name and IP Address
> resources for your MSDTC resource to use and set that resources properties
> not to affect the group.
> Here are some KB articles on correctly setting this up:
> 301600 How to configure Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator on a
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=301600
> 817064 How to enable network DTC access in Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817064
> Also this article which may be of interest:
> 817065 How To Enable Network COM Access in Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817065
> Dave Whitney
> SQL Support
>