MSSQL 2000 SP4 Memory Leak

Greetings all!

On one of our intranet SQL servers running under Windows 2000 SP 3,
MSsql 2000 SP4 seems to gradually "eat" away all available memory (with no obvious reason for it) until a certain limit is reached, forcing the server to slow down substantially since the OS has to SWAP continuously.

I would appreciate any suggestions at this point on how to tackle this problem :)

Thank you!
VincentJSThat is the nature of SQL Server. By default, it will continue to claim available memory that is not being used by applications. It's not a memory leak. Most of this memory is used for data cache, which greatly improves performance. You want SQL Server to have plenty of memory. But you can limit this amout if you view the server properties in enterprise manager.

Bill|||if you can afford it, you should have your web and database servers on different machines. I believe you can limit the amount memory sql server consums with the max server memory option in sp_configure but I have never used it

MSSMS templates when creating procs from Object Explorer -vs- Solution Explorer

I'm trying to integrate SSMS into our small IT shop. Having the templates available in MSSMS will help enforce standards.

My question is why can I right click on the stored proc folder in Object Explorer and get the nice template withthe replaceable params but when I right click in the Queries folder of Solution Explorer I only get a blank query window? It seems to me that I should have templates available in SE too.

I add a new (blank) query into the solution, then right-click/copy the appropriate template from the Template Explorer. This can then be pasted into the new query window.

But you're correct, it would be much nicer to be able to "add from template" straight into the solution.

Jamie

|||Thats a great suggestion can you file it on http://connect.microsoft.com?

MSI and SQL Server Detection

how do they provide the dialog box in the start kits, the one with the combo boxes of available servers, and a test connection button?

You can add custom forms in visual studio setup wizard project, but I haven't been able to figure it out yet - what do they use in the starter kits?view post 360458 discusses it. You can also call the sproc sp_helpserver which returns a recordset with the names of the available Sql Servers and MSDEs.

MS-DTC...Some vulnerability info required

hi...
Sorry if i am putting question at wrong place, guide me.
I have tried 2 exploits (available on net) of Distributed
Transaction Coordinator at 4 different 2k machines.
But after execution of exploit, i dont see any change in
behavior of DTC. It works as it was. The target systems
do not have the required patch/service pack.
Kindly put some suggestions or take me to appropriate group.
Take care...bye
Ok, why 2000 and not 2003 R2? Why are you trying to get in? From the inside
of the network or outside? What exactly did you try? What patches did you
think would fix it?
This could be the case where a later patch fixes the issue or your testing
is a little off. Either way - move to 2003!!!!
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
"Umer" <Umer@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DC4A6615-30F7-44C2-BD81-97D4262B14C4@.microsoft.com...
> hi...
> Sorry if i am putting question at wrong place, guide me.
> I have tried 2 exploits (available on net) of Distributed
> Transaction Coordinator at 4 different 2k machines.
> But after execution of exploit, i dont see any change in
> behavior of DTC. It works as it was. The target systems
> do not have the required patch/service pack.
> Kindly put some suggestions or take me to appropriate group.
> Take care...bye

MSDTC not available

It is possible to copy the data from table to Excel file with
OpenRowset command
When I tried to copy the result set of stored procedure to Excel file
by using this query
Insert into
OPENROWSET('Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0',
'Excel 8.0;Database=F:\v1.xls;HDR=YES',
'SELECT * FROM [Sheet1$]')
Exec mysp 'test','testing'
I got the error
Server: Msg 8501, Level 16, State 3, Line 3
MSDTC on server 'SYS7' is unavailable.
What am I missing?
MadhivananFirst, I would check that the Distributed Transaction Controller is on. The
service can be disabled and is, by default, in certain scenarios. I will see
if I can find anything else to help in this situation.
In response, give an idea of the setup you are running under, as that could
affect the answer. Any additional information on what you are doing would
also be useful.
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
***************************
Think Outside the Box!
***************************
"Madhivanan" wrote:

> It is possible to copy the data from table to Excel file with
> OpenRowset command
> When I tried to copy the result set of stored procedure to Excel file
> by using this query
> Insert into
> OPENROWSET('Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0',
> 'Excel 8.0;Database=F:\v1.xls;HDR=YES',
> 'SELECT * FROM [Sheet1$]')
> Exec mysp 'test','testing'
> I got the error
> Server: Msg 8501, Level 16, State 3, Line 3
> MSDTC on server 'SYS7' is unavailable.
> What am I missing?
>
> Madhivanan
>|||I just want to copy the result set of sp to Excel
I tried it with table and it is working perfectly
I am using SQL Server2000 with Service Pack 4 and Excel version is 2000
Madhivanan|||Still I didnot solve this problem
Any other ideas?
Madhivanan

MSDTC & W2K3 & SQL 2000 issue

I have MSDTC installed in the Cluster group (no other disks available). It fails over fine, comes online on either node, no problem. My DBA alerted me, that she cannot start Distributed Transaction Coordinator on the node that is NOT in control of the MSD
TC resource using SQL Server Enterprise Manager. This is on W2K3. This cluster will be replacing a W2K/SQL2K cluster. I configured the W2K3 cluster, the same as the W2K cluster, yet she (the DBA) CAN start MSDTC on either/both nodes of the W2K cluster. W
hy won't DTC start on the other node in Ent Mgr? The DBA says that this is necessary for something to function correctly, so I have to fix it? Any ideas/help would be appreciated.
A clustered instance of SQL server uses a cluster-wide MSDTC instance
instead of a local MSDTC instance on each host node. As such, the cluster
admin tool becomes the correct tool for managing MSDTC, not SQL Enterprise
Mangler. So, the behavior your DBA noted is correct for a cluster, but
since MSDTC is running the application will function correctly.
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com
I support the Professional Association for SQL Server
www.sqlpass.org
"wbielinski at abms dot org" <wbielinski at abms dot
org@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E0451843-96A1-4B57-98E0-39CD3A73304D@.microsoft.com...
> I have MSDTC installed in the Cluster group (no other disks available). It
fails over fine, comes online on either node, no problem. My DBA alerted me,
that she cannot start Distributed Transaction Coordinator on the node that
is NOT in control of the MSDTC resource using SQL Server Enterprise Manager.
This is on W2K3. This cluster will be replacing a W2K/SQL2K cluster. I
configured the W2K3 cluster, the same as the W2K cluster, yet she (the DBA)
CAN start MSDTC on either/both nodes of the W2K cluster. Why won't DTC
start on the other node in Ent Mgr? The DBA says that this is necessary for
something to function correctly, so I have to fix it? Any ideas/help would
be appreciated.
|||It is a good idea to place MSDTC in its own resource group and another thing
I will check is that the Network access for DTC is enabled. YOu can look for
this in control panel/add remove programs/add remove components/Application
Server.
"Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:

> A clustered instance of SQL server uses a cluster-wide MSDTC instance
> instead of a local MSDTC instance on each host node. As such, the cluster
> admin tool becomes the correct tool for managing MSDTC, not SQL Enterprise
> Mangler. So, the behavior your DBA noted is correct for a cluster, but
> since MSDTC is running the application will function correctly.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> Senior Database Administrator
> Careerbuilder.com
> I support the Professional Association for SQL Server
> www.sqlpass.org
> "wbielinski at abms dot org" <wbielinski at abms dot
> org@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E0451843-96A1-4B57-98E0-39CD3A73304D@.microsoft.com...
> fails over fine, comes online on either node, no problem. My DBA alerted me,
> that she cannot start Distributed Transaction Coordinator on the node that
> is NOT in control of the MSDTC resource using SQL Server Enterprise Manager.
> This is on W2K3. This cluster will be replacing a W2K/SQL2K cluster. I
> configured the W2K3 cluster, the same as the W2K cluster, yet she (the DBA)
> CAN start MSDTC on either/both nodes of the W2K cluster. Why won't DTC
> start on the other node in Ent Mgr? The DBA says that this is necessary for
> something to function correctly, so I have to fix it? Any ideas/help would
> be appreciated.
>
>

MSDTC - The Transaction Manager is not available

I am trying to do something simple to test TransactionOption. I have a ScriptTask (out of the box), which runs fine. To test TransactionOption, I set the Package Properties TransactionOption = Required. Straight away the package fails with the following message

Error: The SSIS Runtime has failed to start the distributed transaction due to error 0x8004D01B "The Transaction Manager is not available.". The DTC transaction failed to start. This could occur because the MSDTC Service is not running.

I am running this on my Laoptop, which has XP Pro with SP2.

I checked the services and MSDTC and it is running fine. I have checked the Event Viewer and saw the following messages... One is Information and the other is Error

Information (Disk - Event ID 2444)
-
MSDTC started with the following settings:
Security Configuration (OFF = 0 and ON = 1):
Network Administration of Transactions = 0,
Network Clients = 0,
Inbound Distributed Transactions using Native MSDTC Protocol = 1,
Outbound Distributed Transactions using Native MSDTC Protocol = 1,
Transaction Internet Protocol (TIP) = 0,
XA Transactions = 0

Error (Devices - Event ID 4437)
The account that the MS DTC service is running under is invalid. This can happen if the service account information has been changed using the Services snap-in in Microsoft Management Console (MMC). MS DTC service will continue to start. Please make sure that the MS DTC service account information is updated using the Component Services Explorer.

I have checked Component Services. All looks fine from what I can see.

Anyone else came across this?

Thanks

Sutha

Sutha,

Try this: http://blogs.conchango.com/jamiethomson/archive/2005/11/02/2339.aspx

-Jamie

|||

Jamie

Thanks. I have read most of the blogs and tried all options suggested.

I dont have Windows Firewall Turned on. Its always off. I have got Norton on. I have disabled Norton and tried it as well. No luck.

Thanks

Sutha

|||

have you tried the tools that I suggested at the bottom of the blog post?

-Jamie

|||

No Jamie, I didn't try those tools, but I have downloaded them. Before that I uninstalled Norton from my laptop and restarted the machine, all worked fine. So in your case it was Windows Firewall, in my case Norton. What a pain, atleast I have identified the problem.

Thanks Jamie

Sutha

|||

Well that makes sense. Norton has a firewall as well doesn't it?

Have you tried opening up the DTC port (can't remember which one it is) on the firewall rather than just disabling it completely?

-Jamie

|||

Jamie

I disabled the Firewall within Norton and tried still didnt work, but didnt try the port. When I uninstall fully it worked. I think it is 185 ( I could be wrong), will try next week.

Thanks

Sutha

MSDTC - running but not available - RPC error?

Hi there.
I am having problems with MSDTC on a 2-node clustered server. I currently
have it added as a resource in a group with disk storage, SQL Server, an IP
Address and a Network name. When I look at the status of MSDTC using MSSQL
Enterprise Manager on either node, it seems to be running Ok (after I select
"bring online" in cluster admin).
I have a non-clustered SQL Server from which I'd like to call stored
procedures on my clustered server (hence I need MSDTC running). However, on
running these queries, I am seeing problems like this:
select * from CLUSTER.MyDB.dbo.MyTable --this works fine BUT
BEGIN DISTRIBUTED TRANSACTION
select * from CLUSTER.MyDB.dbo.MyTable
COMMIT TRANSACTION
returns errors like
'MSDTC on server unavailable' and my stored procedure calls return errors
like:
'OLE DB error trace - ITransactionJoin::JoinTransaction returned 0x8004d00a'
I have performed some configuration according to
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817064
and
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301600
but to no avail.
Any ideas? We tried using DTCPing to obtain more detailed errors and what we
saw were 'RPC' errors (the cluster was unable to ping the other linked server)
Any help would be appreciated!
P.S: A constraint I have is that I can't assign a new IPAddress for MSDTC...
|||Hello,
Is your MSDTC the one from Windows 2003?
/Patrice
|||Yes - it's 2003 - sorry for leaving this out (I've ust gone a bit dizzy from
trying to fix this!)
"Patrice" wrote:

> Hello,
> Is your MSDTC the one from Windows 2003?
> /Patrice
>
|||Hello,
Is it possible for you to do the following test...
Cound you call your SP after
(a) you bring SQL online only after MSDTC was fully up and running
(b) you (try to) bring SQL online before MSDTC was fully up and
running
It would be interesting to notice that everything is fine with (a), and
that you got an "MSDTC on server unavailable" error message with (b).
If it is the case it will mean that you are experiencing the same
problem than the one I experienced a couple of months ago ;-)
/Patrice
|||Hello "Len",
Are you able to do the test I have proposed? Should I continue to
monitor this topic?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
/Patrice
|||If Patrice's test works you should contact Microsoft Product Support and
request the hotfix associated with this KB article:
883955 Availability of Windows Server 2003 COM 1.5 Rollup Package 3
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=883955
Dave Whitney
SQL Support

MSDN Subscription Level for latest Yukon CTP

I'm working on some research that requires me to have access to the
latest CTP of Yukon, and I know it's available via MSDN subscription.
Can anyone tell me the minimum subscription level required to have
download access to the CTP?
Thanks
AllenSearch for SQL ServerT 2005 within
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscript...ackinglist.aspx
It looks like it is included with MSDN Professional.
Keith
"Allen White" <amwhite@.oco.net> wrote in message
news:825fv05697ud46c5iqrm63r9gl8fhep73e@.
4ax.com...
> I'm working on some research that requires me to have access to the
> latest CTP of Yukon, and I know it's available via MSDN subscription.
> Can anyone tell me the minimum subscription level required to have
> download access to the CTP?
> Thanks
> Allen|||Thanks, Kieth, but in the shipment lists in all levels it only shows
Beta 2 of SQL Server 2005, and I know that the CTP (Beta 3, currently)
is available for download on the web site at least at the Universal
level. I'm looking to find out the minimum level at which it's
available.
Allen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0600, "Keith Kratochvil"
<sqlguy.back2u@.comcast.net> wrote:

>Search for SQL ServerT 2005 within
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscript...ackinglist.aspx
>It looks like it is included with MSDN Professional.|||My point is:
If it ships with version x of the MSDN Subscription then it should be
available via the download center.
Keith
"Allen White" <amwhite@.oco.net> wrote in message
news:lm6fv0h1d1r4mdjmjeiedsro5g2nbe9jnp@.
4ax.com...
> Thanks, Kieth, but in the shipment lists in all levels it only shows
> Beta 2 of SQL Server 2005, and I know that the CTP (Beta 3, currently)
> is available for download on the web site at least at the Universal
> level. I'm looking to find out the minimum level at which it's
> available.
> Allen
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0600, "Keith Kratochvil"
> <sqlguy.back2u@.comcast.net> wrote:
>
>|||Keith Kratochvil wrote:

>My point is:
>If it ships with version x of the MSDN Subscription then it should be
>available via the download center.
>
>
Yes, but the converse is not true. The download center provides much more
than what is shipped. The CTP builds of SQL Server, not the Beta releases,
are what the poster asked about, and they are not included in any MSDN
shipments, so the shipment lists won't help answer the question.
I believe the two CTP builds released so far are available to all
MSDN subscribers, regardless of subscription level. At least that's
what it says at
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/...erLowCostPR.asp
I haven't heard anyone complain that they are an MSDN
subscriber but couldn't get the CTP, either. For the record,
the December CTP of the Express version (the SQL engine
with some limitations and no tools) is available to anyone,
MSDN subscriber or not, here:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/
Steve Kass
Drew University|||Thanks
Keith|||Thanks, Steve. That linked helped a lot.
Allen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:35:31 -0500, Steve Kass <skass@.drew.edu> wrote:

>
>Keith Kratochvil wrote:
>
>Yes, but the converse is not true. The download center provides much more
>than what is shipped. The CTP builds of SQL Server, not the Beta releases,
>are what the poster asked about, and they are not included in any MSDN
>shipments, so the shipment lists won't help answer the question.
>I believe the two CTP builds released so far are available to all
>MSDN subscribers, regardless of subscription level. At least that's
>what it says at
>http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/...om/express/sql/
>Steve Kass
>Drew University

MSDN Subscription Level for latest Yukon CTP

I'm working on some research that requires me to have access to the
latest CTP of Yukon, and I know it's available via MSDN subscription.
Can anyone tell me the minimum subscription level required to have
download access to the CTP?
Thanks
Allen
Search for SQL ServerT 2005 within
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...ckinglist.aspx
It looks like it is included with MSDN Professional.
Keith
"Allen White" <amwhite@.oco.net> wrote in message
news:825fv05697ud46c5iqrm63r9gl8fhep73e@.4ax.com...
> I'm working on some research that requires me to have access to the
> latest CTP of Yukon, and I know it's available via MSDN subscription.
> Can anyone tell me the minimum subscription level required to have
> download access to the CTP?
> Thanks
> Allen
|||Thanks, Kieth, but in the shipment lists in all levels it only shows
Beta 2 of SQL Server 2005, and I know that the CTP (Beta 3, currently)
is available for download on the web site at least at the Universal
level. I'm looking to find out the minimum level at which it's
available.
Allen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0600, "Keith Kratochvil"
<sqlguy.back2u@.comcast.net> wrote:

>Search for SQL ServerT 2005 within
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...ckinglist.aspx
>It looks like it is included with MSDN Professional.
|||My point is:
If it ships with version x of the MSDN Subscription then it should be
available via the download center.
Keith
"Allen White" <amwhite@.oco.net> wrote in message
news:lm6fv0h1d1r4mdjmjeiedsro5g2nbe9jnp@.4ax.com...
> Thanks, Kieth, but in the shipment lists in all levels it only shows
> Beta 2 of SQL Server 2005, and I know that the CTP (Beta 3, currently)
> is available for download on the web site at least at the Universal
> level. I'm looking to find out the minimum level at which it's
> available.
> Allen
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0600, "Keith Kratochvil"
> <sqlguy.back2u@.comcast.net> wrote:
>
|||Keith Kratochvil wrote:

>My point is:
>If it ships with version x of the MSDN Subscription then it should be
>available via the download center.
>
>
Yes, but the converse is not true. The download center provides much more
than what is shipped. The CTP builds of SQL Server, not the Beta releases,
are what the poster asked about, and they are not included in any MSDN
shipments, so the shipment lists won't help answer the question.
I believe the two CTP builds released so far are available to all
MSDN subscribers, regardless of subscription level. At least that's
what it says at
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...rLowCostPR.asp
I haven't heard anyone complain that they are an MSDN
subscriber but couldn't get the CTP, either. For the record,
the December CTP of the Express version (the SQL engine
with some limitations and no tools) is available to anyone,
MSDN subscriber or not, here:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/
Steve Kass
Drew University
|||Thanks
Keith
|||Thanks, Steve. That linked helped a lot.
Allen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:35:31 -0500, Steve Kass <skass@.drew.edu> wrote:

>
>Keith Kratochvil wrote:
>Yes, but the converse is not true. The download center provides much more
>than what is shipped. The CTP builds of SQL Server, not the Beta releases,
>are what the poster asked about, and they are not included in any MSDN
>shipments, so the shipment lists won't help answer the question.
>I believe the two CTP builds released so far are available to all
>MSDN subscribers, regardless of subscription level. At least that's
>what it says at
>http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...rLowCostPR.asp
>I haven't heard anyone complain that they are an MSDN
>subscriber but couldn't get the CTP, either. For the record,
>the December CTP of the Express version (the SQL engine
>with some limitations and no tools) is available to anyone,
>MSDN subscriber or not, here:
>http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/
>Steve Kass
>Drew University

MSDN Subscription Level for latest Yukon CTP

I'm working on some research that requires me to have access to the
latest CTP of Yukon, and I know it's available via MSDN subscription.
Can anyone tell me the minimum subscription level required to have
download access to the CTP?
Thanks
AllenSearch for SQL ServerT 2005 within
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/index/packinglist.aspx
It looks like it is included with MSDN Professional.
--
Keith
"Allen White" <amwhite@.oco.net> wrote in message
news:825fv05697ud46c5iqrm63r9gl8fhep73e@.4ax.com...
> I'm working on some research that requires me to have access to the
> latest CTP of Yukon, and I know it's available via MSDN subscription.
> Can anyone tell me the minimum subscription level required to have
> download access to the CTP?
> Thanks
> Allen|||Thanks, Kieth, but in the shipment lists in all levels it only shows
Beta 2 of SQL Server 2005, and I know that the CTP (Beta 3, currently)
is available for download on the web site at least at the Universal
level. I'm looking to find out the minimum level at which it's
available.
Allen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0600, "Keith Kratochvil"
<sqlguy.back2u@.comcast.net> wrote:
>Search for SQL ServerT 2005 within
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/index/packinglist.aspx
>It looks like it is included with MSDN Professional.|||My point is:
If it ships with version x of the MSDN Subscription then it should be
available via the download center.
--
Keith
"Allen White" <amwhite@.oco.net> wrote in message
news:lm6fv0h1d1r4mdjmjeiedsro5g2nbe9jnp@.4ax.com...
> Thanks, Kieth, but in the shipment lists in all levels it only shows
> Beta 2 of SQL Server 2005, and I know that the CTP (Beta 3, currently)
> is available for download on the web site at least at the Universal
> level. I'm looking to find out the minimum level at which it's
> available.
> Allen
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0600, "Keith Kratochvil"
> <sqlguy.back2u@.comcast.net> wrote:
> >Search for SQL ServerT 2005 within
> >http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/index/packinglist.aspx
> >It looks like it is included with MSDN Professional.
>|||Keith Kratochvil wrote:
>My point is:
>If it ships with version x of the MSDN Subscription then it should be
>available via the download center.
>
>
Yes, but the converse is not true. The download center provides much more
than what is shipped. The CTP builds of SQL Server, not the Beta releases,
are what the poster asked about, and they are not included in any MSDN
shipments, so the shipment lists won't help answer the question.
I believe the two CTP builds released so far are available to all
MSDN subscribers, regardless of subscription level. At least that's
what it says at
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/dec04/12-03ServerLowCostPR.asp
I haven't heard anyone complain that they are an MSDN
subscriber but couldn't get the CTP, either. For the record,
the December CTP of the Express version (the SQL engine
with some limitations and no tools) is available to anyone,
MSDN subscriber or not, here:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/
Steve Kass
Drew University|||Thanks
--
Keith|||Thanks, Steve. That linked helped a lot.
Allen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:35:31 -0500, Steve Kass <skass@.drew.edu> wrote:
>
>Keith Kratochvil wrote:
>>My point is:
>>If it ships with version x of the MSDN Subscription then it should be
>>available via the download center.
>>
>Yes, but the converse is not true. The download center provides much more
>than what is shipped. The CTP builds of SQL Server, not the Beta releases,
>are what the poster asked about, and they are not included in any MSDN
>shipments, so the shipment lists won't help answer the question.
>I believe the two CTP builds released so far are available to all
>MSDN subscribers, regardless of subscription level. At least that's
>what it says at
>http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/dec04/12-03ServerLowCostPR.asp
>I haven't heard anyone complain that they are an MSDN
>subscriber but couldn't get the CTP, either. For the record,
>the December CTP of the Express version (the SQL engine
>with some limitations and no tools) is available to anyone,
>MSDN subscriber or not, here:
>http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/
>Steve Kass
>Drew University